The Cooper Point Journal Volume 11, Issue 9 (January 13, 1983)

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The Cooper Point Journal Volume 11, Issue 9 (January 13, 1983)
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Staff Votes Yes For Union Representation
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by John Hill
Although Evergreen's classified staff is
divided over the outcome of the December 16 union shop election, they do have
one thing in common: all of them who
are not already union members, 37%,
must join the Washington Federation of
State Employees (WFSE) by January 15 .
The successfu l vote was the cu lmination
of an organizing drive that began in
October and involved almost 20 union
members. Of the 182 members of Evergreen's bargaining unit, which is comprised of union and non-union staff from
various sections of the college, 119 voted
for the union shop, 45 voted against it
and 18 didn't vote. Steven Kant, a member of the Self-Paced Learning Unit (SPLU)
Lab staff, said that "these elections are
usually very close, withi n one to two
votes. The outcome of the election here
at Evergreen is fairly unusual. "
There are a couple of reasons why the
staff felt a union shop was necessary at
the college. One important reason is that
Evergreen employees do not bargain
directly with the college for their salaries
and benefits . These are determined by the
legislature for all state employees. Another
goal of the unionized staff is to organize
a stronger voice, one which could be represented by WFSE lobbyists in the legislature. By looking after their interests they'
hope to improve their relationship with
the college administration as well . Kant

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said: "In the last few months we have
become more and more angry about the
way we are treated by the college. The
trustees are stalling on our contract and
are giving indications that they will not
agree to it, even though their team negotiated it and union members have already
ratif ied it. In the election itself, the ad-

ministration continued to be uncooperative and often nasty; we had difficulty in
obtaining lists of voters, and the admini stration attempted to exclude whole areas
from voting, We were told that it was not
a good time for the election because we
hadn't had enough experience with the
union to decide on a union shop."

The Washington Union Shop Law,
, which made the elec tion possible, is a
piece of legi slation signed in 1973 by then
Governor Dan Evans .
Andrea Winship , a staff member in
interl ibrary loa n, sa id that " it (unio n shop )
has created the opportuni ty for a dialogue
between equa ls"
Nil es Reichardt, also a library staff
member sa id : ''I'm glad that it passed but
I'm not convin ced th at it will equali ze the
relationshi p between Evergreen's admini strat ion and staff. There IS a conf li ct
of interests between the two ,"
Whether a change in the relat ionship
between the coll ege and its staff will
occu r is difficult to answer. Rita Cooper,
the administrator of the college's Personnel Office said that "one of the thin gs I'm
always saying to peop le is that I know of
no institution that has ever been closed
down because of a union shop. Plac es
continu e to operate successfully with
uni on sho ps and without union shops
In terms of the re lationship between the
college administration and the staff, i t
wi II take some ti me to sort that out."
It is hard to say for sure what the future
holds for thi s relationship. kant refers to
a new dedication and assurance among
the staff : " We learned in the union shop
drive that we can change things ourselves.
With all of the new confidence and
people that we now have, we've got a
good start fo~ I he future,"

Expanded City Council Still Works Overtime
by Richard Fellows

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Attending a city counci l meeting may
be the last thing you've ever thought of
doing; with Star Wars and E. T. for competition, sewerlines and sidewalks can
seem rather dry. However, the people on
this council are faced with many diffi cul t
decisions related to the allocation of
public money They seem to be serious,
cau tious people who try to study a problem thoroughly before acting. Their meetings are held weekly at 7:30 Tuesday
nights at City Hall (8th and Plum St.)
There is now, as a resu lt of the last electi ons, a seven-member council in place of
the old three-member commi ss ion.
In these hard economi c times many
new ideas are popping up on th e loca l
level which are appropriate to the times .
These involve a re-evaluation of many old
assumptions about development issues
and to whom loca l government should
pay the most attention . Since public input
is provided for in the full council discussions of agenda items, there is a good
chance of getting thi s council to consider
new ideas and approaches to loca l problems. Some of these changes may include
a lt~ rn ative approaches to development,
bicycle lanes and paths, or potential Evergreen internships whi ch could save the
city money while providing good experi ence to students. Specifi c ideas one might
have can be brought up at the beginning
of a meeting during the time provided for
nonagenda items or later, if they happen
to pertai n to agenda items.
There are seven advisory committees

items for study are delegated so as to
streamline the process, These committees
have three members each and each council member chairs one committee, They
each meet two times per month and are
generally open to people loo king on
although they do not require public notifica ti on of meetings since they are not a
quorum.
The committees and respective chairpeople are as follows: Downtown - Joan
Barnes Kelly; General government -Mary
Stuart Lu x, who put in the first bill to start
Evergreen in 1965; Transportation - Gil
Carbone, who campaigned for the city
council-style of government and is a
st rong su pporter o f cit izen ac ti vism;
I:nergy-Dave Scramstad, who is also
mayor and seems to be a good meeting
facilitator; Planning-Holly Gadbaw, who
is also a strong supporter of citi zen parti cipatio n. She was the chair of the drive to
change to council -style government and
says she hopes to'-see citi zens take initiative in findin g out what's going on and is
push ing for publication of meeting times
and agendas; Public sa fety - Pete Knittle;
Budget - Bill Daley , who was previou sly
on the city commi ss ion and is reputed to
work for the publi c interest. Council
members also have families and fu ll -time
jobs,
The council is now involved in what
Mary Lux ca ll ed a " heavy study period. "
She explained that the counci l has to consuit many outside experts so as to gain a
clear picture of how best to serve the
public interest. Issues confronting the

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the L.O.T.T. wastewater facility, down- '
ager Michael Huntsberger town revitalization, as well as general
budget allocation and smaller proj ects.
Lux stressed that with better ci tizen

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partici pation the cou ncil cou ld bring
about progress in expl or in g financially
feasible ways of improving the downtown
area. Council members seem pleased to
see people turn out just to watch the
process and urged more publi c
participation ,
The main advantage of the new government seems to be a far greater division of
labor among the seven subcommittees. A
seven-member cou nci l can also provide
for broader based representation . There is,
however, ,far more need for consensus .
Ruth Goldway, the mayor of Santa
Monica, a city well known for its progressive reforms, pointed out in a recent
lecture that to bring about these major
changes in approach there are two
e~sel1 tial preconditions: One is that there be
a strong concensus among the like-minded

people running the local government ; the
other was that there be broad-based and
aet iV(' cit izen support for what HlP
rO ll neil wants to do ,
A group in Olympia call ed The Progres'IV(' Alliance has been working 011 torm ing
sULh a coali tion of informed and dC li ve
citllen s. They, like Silnta Monicl re, ldents, are looking at .1n array of new
ideas suc h as : developing a publi c interest
framework for rE'viE'w of deve lopment
proposals; linked deposit for city and
cou nty fund s with cri terion beyond simply
rate of return , establishing a tighter
criteri a for the use of industrial revenue
bonds; and establi shing criteria for citv
and county development agreement
ordinances . If you are interested in finding out more about the Progressive
Alliance, ca ll Jeff or Tom Nogler at
352-3614.

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News & Not
Come to INNER PLACE POTlUCK on
Thursday, Jan. 13, at CAB 306, from 5-7,
to have fun and get acquainted. For more
information call our new number :
866-6000, ex t. 6145, from 12 to 2 p.m.
Fating with abandon will be the order
of the day when 100 lucky parti c ipants sit
down at THE MEDIEVAL FEAST from 7 to
10 p .m , Friday, January 14, in room 4300
of the Evans Library at The Evergreen
State College Ti ckets are $12 50 for studenh and senior citizens and $1 5 for the
general pub li c, and shou ld be purchased
soon a, o nl y 100 will be sc id .
Tl cl--ets for the Medi eval Feast must be
purc has ed In Evergreen's Acti vi ti es Offi ce,
room 30 S of the Campus Ac ti viti es BuildIng or at Rainy Day Record s, or Yenney's
Ivlu,ic II I O lympia . ror more info rmation ,
(al l Al i'Clllll Lal11b weekda y, at /lhb-b(lOO,
('\1 b22tl

R" hdrd Kn"e ly, il 1978 graduate of The
b l'rI; reen ) I.lte College, wi ll present J
PIANO RECITAL on Friday , lanuary 14, at
II \1 111 111 thl' Rl'( it al Hall of th e Coml11u IlI ( " lion, 13u ilding Kni sely is current Iv
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\ 111\el, ,1\ In tilt' past two Y!'ilr S, he h.ls
pt' ll orl11t'd Irc'quentiv in the Roston are" .
I lid,1\"' pr"~r il m wil l in clude worb of
Haydn , l h(Jpln. D.'bu ssy. Ravel and
Pro~(ll 1(>' ,l nd " free and open to the
pub li C

Care ,l b()ut wildlif e habltilt and water
qual It ,. 111 Washington Stil t!, 1 Concerned

what might happen to our Shorelines
Management Act and State Environmental
Protection Act during the 1983 legislative
session? Attend the AUDUBON/WASHINGTON ENVIRONMENTAL COUNCIL'S
LEGISLATIVE WORKSHOP on jan 15
from 8:30 to 5 at the General Admini stration Building on the Capitol Campus here
in Olympia, and find out what's happen- .
ing environmental ly in Olympia this year
.
For more information contact Pam Crocker-Davis in Olympia at 786-8020.

An ec lec tic collec tion of photographs,
drawin gs, posters and crafts created by
LATIN AMERICAN WOMEN ARTISTS will
go on display Saturday, January 15 in
Ga ll ery Four of the Evans Library at The
Evergref'n Sta te College. Cathered by art
hi sto ri an a nd arti st Betty LaDl1ke of
Southern Orf'go n Stil te College, the show
w ill open with a slide/ lecture by LaDuke
o n " Latin America : Women , Art and
Soc ial Change " Her talk begins at 3 p .m .
Sa turd ay in the Rec ital Hall of the Communiciltl on, Kuddin g and is free and open
to the publi c
Kotobukiki e, a five-member Japa nese
dance troupe from Tacoma, will open a
fes tive TRIBUTE TO JAPAN slated Sunday,
l anuary 16 from 1-5 p.m . in th e Evans
Library Building at The Evergreen State
College . The fr ee, half-day ce lebration ,
co-sponsored by the Consulate General of
Japan in Seattle, will al so feature two
performances by the Tokiwakai dancers
of Seattle, three traditional Japanese tea

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ceremonies, and an academic exploration
of the cultural , artistic and industrial
creativity of modern japan by three Evergreen faculty members. Also slated are
film and video tape showings, slide/
lectures, demonstrations of traditional
japanese crafts, exhibits, and sales of
freshly prepared delicacies by members of
the japanese-American Citizens League
Activities begin promptly at 1: 15 p.m .
when , atop the Library, Evergreen President. Dan Evans welcomes guests and
representatives from the Seattle Office of
the Consulate General of japan and members of the Kotobukikie dance troupe.
Admission to Evergreen's " Tribute to
japan" is free and open to the public. For
further information call the Office of
College Relations, 866-6000, ext 6128.
I nner Place, student activity center for
spiritual ex ploration , is sponsoring A
SERIES OF GATHERINGS designed to
expand self awareness and enhance interpersona l relations.
The gatherings
begin jan . 1b, from '2 to 4, and wi ll be
repeated on Monday from 12 to 2, in
Library room 3225 . There is no charge, no
credits, no homework . Non-student members of th e community are welcome.
The s&A BOARD WILL MEET Wednesday, january 19, in lib 2220 from one till
4 pm .; Spring Allocation Process wil l be
discussed.
The S&A Board is LOOKING FOR NEW
BOARD MEMBERS and alternates. This
could be your chance to make $435,000
worth of decisions in the spring . If interested contact Joel Barnes or Lynn Garner
in CAB 305, phone 866-6220.

Miles Of Wire: Evergreen Ousts Ma Bell

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STORYTIME FOR PRESCHOOLERS, ages
4-5. Stories, films, crafts, music, sharing . .. at the Tumwater Timberland library
January 18 and 20 through March 8 and
10, Tuesdays , 1030-11 : 1.5, Thursdays ,
1: 15-2_ Preregistration required . NO FEE .
For more information cal l : 943-7790.

by Stephen Kistler
" We're sorry, the number you have
reached has been disconnected or is not
in serVice at this time." People who
frequently dial in to The Evergreen State
College (TESC) from off-campus have
probably heard this recording more often
than they wou ld like to admit.
This past fa ll , Evergreen had a new
phone system installed by Specific Telecom, a private company not affiliated
with Pacific Northwest Bell (PNB). The
new system involves routing all calls from
outside the system through an operator
available at 866-{,()00. The operator connects calls to four-<Jigit extensions
assigned to the campus phones . Not all of
the new extensions coincide with the
numbers from the old system. The system
works most efficiently when callers
request the extension number they need .
These numbers can be found in the new
directory, which is available at the
Administrative Services office in ' Lab
Building II. Although the system has
c<'used some initial confusion, the benefits far outweight these problems, according to Administrative Services Manager
jim Duncan.
Contract bids were requested following
a report by an evaluation team, including
faculty and a private consultant, which
concl uded that a privately owned system
would save a lot of money. The Specific
Telecom system cost $604,166.99 and will
be fully paid off over a ten-year period, at
which time the ~chool will take full
responsibility for the system. It comes
with a one-year warranty for parts, labor,
and maintenance. There is a company

Prints by Tacoma artist Michi Osaka
will be featured in a ONE-WOMAN SHOW
opening December 11 in Gallery Two of
the Evans Library at The Evergreen State
College. The exhibit, which showcases Ms.
Osaka's innovative use of traditional
japanese art forms with new printmaking
materials and processes, wi ll remain on
display through January 20. A reception
opening the show will be hosted December 11 from 4 to 6 p.m . in the gallery by
student members of Evergreen's AsianPacific Isles Coalition .
Two EMPLOYMENT WORKSHOPS IN
THE FIELD OF ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE
will be sponsored this month by Career
Planning and Placement Presentors for
these panel discussions wi ll describe the
work they presently do in the field of
environmental science, the academic and
experiential background which led to their
present employment, and talk some about
their expectations of prospective employees. Entry-level Employment and
Graduate School Options will be the topic
of the first workshop, held january 19,
CAB 110, 130-4. Watch for advertising
flyers posted around campus and, for
further information on these workshops,
contact Career Planning and Placement,
library 1214, 866-6<XXJ, ext 6193.

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1l1agdl ine PoPlry , prose, , hort fi cti on,
photogrilp h\, and graphi cs. PLEASE SUBMIT' S. ,,,,I submi ssions to ' Editors, Art
Re s""" l' Ce nl er , CA B JOS Dea dlin f':
Febru ,H" lb.

WANn D People w ho live in Lacey or
have eas" dcce" to it , to pra ctice English
with Camhodlan adults. Part of the S . ~
Asian I\I11"rl( an Cultural Exchange program I or Info ca ll .3)2-2589 Thanks .
St p ,er Hospital is offering free classes
all h0 v to quit smoking The course con-

si'ts of four one-hour sess ions at the
hosp lta' on January 11. 13, 18, and 20
from 7 to 8 p m. It fo ll ows the "Fresh
St,HI" (II rrl culum developed by the America n lanl pr Soc iety. Class size is limited,
S0 pled ''-' pre reg i st er with th e Publi c
Relat ions Department at 456-7247

Workf'rs ,lnci volunt f'ers needed for the
NDSL BORROW ERS: I f you have
OVERTHROW OF TYRANNY . Paid posi- received a National Defense/ Direct Stut ions ava il ablf'. Volunteer help useful and dent Loan whil e attending Evergreen and
arpreridted. Th e Evergreen Politi ca l you plan to graduate, withdraw, or go on
Inform.tti on Center is hiring a coordinator
leave nex t quarter, you are required to go
for 19/1 ',. (U S. Presidents need not apply). th'rough an NDSL Ex it Interview before
Contac I Lara M cintosh or Phred Churchi ll
leavi ng. Pleas e co ntact the Student
at the ~PIL offi ce (Lib 3222), ext . 6144
Accounts Office at 866-6000, ext. 6448, to
make an appointment .
" Am('rica ; From Hitler to the MX' the film m any folk s tried to see last
Please Ilote that insurance enrollment
quarter and havf' been ask ing about ever
or
wiliver cards need to be submitted by
since is f'INJ\LL Y coming Th e distributhf'
5th class day of the quarter if you
tion probl em IS solved . See you Monday
have
not submitted one during Fall
.
Jan . 17 at 7:30 in L.H . 1 or Tuesday noon,
Quarter. The 5th class day of Winter
CAR 110.
Quarter was january 7. I nsurance premi ums mList be paid no later than the 30th
calendar day of the quarter, which for
Li sten to S.E. Asian music and conversaWinter Quarter is February 1. If you want
tion every Sunday :
to be covered during a quarter while on
500-S ·..lO The Cambodian show
leave or on vacation, you need to make
5:3(}-6:00 The Lao show
special arrangements by contacting Anna
6:00-7 :00 The Vietnamese show
Mae Livingston in Student Accounts,
Tune in to KAOS 89.3FM.
866-6000, ext. 6440.

Some first steps toward finding suitable
potential solutions to Washington's economic crisis will be taken january 13 when
The Evergreen State College opens a conference focused on "economic development and jobs" in this state.
The session, sponsored by Evergreen's
masters degree program in public administration, is not designed to offer "quick
fixes to this state's economic woes," says
conference organizer Dr. Kenneth DoIbeare. I nstead, the Evergreen political
science professor says, "We'll begin
focusing public attention on economic
issues facing this state-and try to start
the process of developing creative and
effective means for desirable, long-term
economic development."

Experienced seamstress from Cambodia
sews quality women 's ' and ch ildren 's
c lothing in her own home. Inexpensive.
Please ca ll 352-2589 to place orders .
Thanks.
Demonstration in support of access to
abortion on Saturday, january 22, at the
Capitol. For 'more information , call Pam
Lux, 1-522-5598.
The Self-Help Legal Aid office is hiring
for two advocate staff positions . Information is avai lable at Lib . 3223 . Application
deadline is jan. 19.

To reach that goal, the M.P.A. sponsors believe the public must be involved
along with the decision makers and
practitioners.
"The process of revitalizing our economy will necessarily involve value choices
which will lead to alternative futures for
this state and region," Dr. Dolbeare
explains. "These choices must not be left
only to those at the practitioner or technical level; they must be made in a way
that is consistent with our democracy and
that reflects the va lues of our loca l
citi zens ."

STAFF
Production Manager: Eric Brinker
Graphics : Gerry Amandes

Managing Editor Erin Kenny
Arts Editor: David Gaff

Sports Editor: Duane Heier

Writers:

Richard Fellows Carney Combs)ohn W. Hill, Lesli Welliver\Stephen Kistler,
FranciSCO Chateaubriand Arthpr West
Business Manager: Margaret Morgan Advertising Manager : James Bergin

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To launch that publi c discussion, the
M .P.A . program has enlisted professor
emeritus Dr. Bertram Gross of the City
University of New York to deliver the conference's first keynote address Thursday
night beginning at 8 o'clock in Lecture
Hall Three.
Dr. Gross, a public policy advisor who
drafted the major national statutes that
define the federal government's role in
the economy, will discuss "Citizen Rights
to jobs and Income in Future U.S. Econformer executive secretary of

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technician on campus full time now and
one will be trained to take over when he
leaves.
The savings are estimated to amount to
$6(),OOO per year for the payback period.
There was no money up front, and Evergreen will not go over the planned 198283 operational budget. The idea of buying
a private system arose when PNB rate
increases occurred in unprecedented
amounts Between june 1979 and October
1981, equ ipment costs went up more than
80%. Service costs recently went up
between 185% and 300% depending on
the size of the instrument to be serviced .
And in january 1982 a law was passed imposing a 6.3% sales tax 011 phone
equipment.
The State of Washington has also just
purchased a privately owned phone
system from Honeywell for $4.5 million .
They expect to have this paid in nine
months from savings alone. '
Student organizations will also realize
savings because of the system change,
which will mean more money in their S&A
account for activities. While these savings

will probably not be realized until spring
quarter, it is projected to be about a $10
a month savings for regular service. Anyone who is having trouble using the new
phones or is curious about which options
their phone is equipped with can have
questions answered by Donna Carpenter
at Administrative Services. Requests for
other available options are considered
upon application, and these forms can
also be picked up at the Administrative
Services office. It has on ly been seven
years since the Federal Commun ications
Commission (FCC) opened phone servi ce
for private systems to tie in with the Bell
System.
Evergreen's new system has many
featu res that were not available when it
was on contract with PNB. The campus
phones are all controlled by a computerized switcher in the basement of the
library. Additional options such as conference lines, call forwarding, and putting
call s on hold are available on request and
can be implemented within a day or two
through the controlling computer. Faculty
now have the option of answering their

the President's Council of Economic
Advisors is also expected to talk about
issues he raises in his latest book: Friend/y
Fascism: The New Face of Power in
America.
The conference formally begins at
9 a.m . january 14 with a full schedule of
speeches, panel discussions and workshops expected to attract governmental
leaders, economists, historians, and representatives from all levels of business to
Evergreen's campus.
The state's economy will first be exai'hined by Evergreen faculty economist Dr.
Russell Lidman, David Weig, state economist for the Office of Financial Management, and Lynn Michaelis,- chief economist for Weyerhaeuser.
Two governmental leaders from California - Director of the Office of Econ-

Strasser (Never Done: A History of
American Housework), and Dr. Tom
Rainey.
The second major keynote address is
set for 11 a.m. Saturday when California
economist and planner Derek Shearer will
offer his views on "The Political Imperatives of Economic Democracy" Shearer,
who recently coauthored Economic
Democracy: The Challenge of the 19805,
is the husband of Santa Monica Mayor
Ruth Goldway, whose administration has
attracted national attention for its progressive innovations .
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The system has redu ced Evergreen 's
two-way connecting trunks with PNB from
about 300 down to 50, so the volume of
possible calls from off campus has been
considerably reduced. However, thi s also
creates a large cost reduction since each
trunk costs about $b5 per month to
operate. TESC also has acces s to ten "scan
trunks" which are state-operated at a
reduced cost. Calls going off ca mpu s are
generally routed through these at a cos t
of 12¢ per minute.
Phones in campus housing mu st still be
acquired through PNB because of the
bookkeeping that wou ld have been
required to bill those phones issued to
students. However, the system does have
thi s capability and it may be all orti on in
the future .
There is on ly one full-time operator on
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backup in busy ti meso There have been
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giving the impression that no one is
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Duncan thinks the bugs will be worked
out in short order " When you change
over a system on this magnitude there are
going to be problems, and we expected
it. " He suggests conta cting friends who
may not have heard about the switch to
help alleviate problems in this area.
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Jan . 13, 1963 The Cooper Point Journal page 3

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EDITORS'YIEW

by Kenny

.

Well kids, here we are back again at
school; things haven't changed much .
Except that I find I'm being charged $15
extra this term in the form of a mandatory
hf'alth fee! $151 Now I don't know about
you but I'm scraping just to' pay my tuition -I simply can't afford $45 a year to
subsidize someone else's health care
costs. And I personally spend no more
than $15 a year at Health Services. Maybe
I should become a hypochondriac just to
get my money's wort!) .. . To get a little
distance, the state economy seems to be
improving-that is, if you believe the
Economic and Revenue Forecast put out
by the Office of Financial Management in
December. According to this state agency,
Washington employment will be increasing steadily over the next few years , while
mortgage rates fall drastically and housing
permits dramatically increase. Everything's
com ing up roses, I guess. At least if
Reagan gets his way and the minimum
wage for teens drops to $1 .57 / hr. unemployment may decrease as companies fire
dad or mom and hire their two kids. We
can only wait and see. On the environmental front, there was an oil spill Wednesday morning in Anacortes .. Don't
worry " they" said it's all cleaned up now.
Anyway , we can expect a large increase in
acid rain and acid fog in this area now
that the Power Counci l has recommended
coa l as an alternat ive to WPPSS 4 and 5
(Seatt le's rain is already as acidic as
battery acid). Well, a December 13 Newsweek article reveals that acid rain has
been found to cause considerable damage
to evergreen trees. It seems their growth

LETTERS

Can Economic Authorities Solve State's Fiscal Crisisl

9augherty Explains
is stunted and needles fall off from the
acid and from the heavy metals leached
from the soil by the acids. Anyway, so
what's a little acid and heavy metals in
our air, rain, soil, garden, salad? After all,
alternative energies have their pollution
problems too. Like huge windmills-why,
they would create lots of noise pollution.
But of course if we had small local windmills the sound would be minim~1. No
one ever thinks of that ... Speaking of
noise pollution, was anyone else awakened last Thursdav morning by the sonic
boom that occurred from a Mach 3 Air
Force plane as it approached earth for
refueling? Right over Olympia l And all
those continual booms that rattle windows
on the west side from test bombs and
fighter planes compliments of Ft. Lewis?
Are they not noise pollution? No, I guess
they are the sound of freedom ... And
speaking of freedom, the voter initiative
394 (which said we get to vote on whether
WPPSS can spend more of our money on
nuke plants) was ruled unconstitutional.
Unconstitutional? But we voted that we
should have a say in how our money is
spent. I guess big business knows better
than we do how to spend our money.
Very discouraging I This reminds me of the
time we all voted against a sa les tax on
food. Remember? It's the same 01': the
people don't know what's good for
them ... This is what allows some washedup Hollywood actor to tell us we need
"The Peacekeeper" MX Missi Ie when
three-quarters of the country voted for a
nuclear freeze. Hmmm .
Same as it ever
was
Same as it ever was .

Editor:
Regarding your publication of my paper
in response to the long-term curriculum
DTF Report, I need to say the follOWing
three things to various members of the
Evergreen community:
The paper was not written for the
CP}, It was written in response to an invitation, issued to the faculty by the
.Provost, to write such papers as bases for
discussion. The CPJ editors asked me if
they could print it; in an edited-down
version, and I said yes. But I said yes with
some reservations, knowing that what I
wrote is very much a "working paper" and
not a polished piece of writing of the sort
that would meet my own standards for a
published essay on this subject Still, I
certainly stand by what I said by the
"content."
2. The paper was sharply edited by the
CPJ editors. I was told in advance that it
would be, and was offered the chance to
do that work myself when I was asked for
my permission to run the piece. I declined , not having the time to do it -and
believing that the editing of this particular paper would pose a significant educational challenge to our student editors.
They did a terrific job! But they had to
cut out certain points, of necessity, in the
doing of that terrific job. If anyone would
like a copy of the original, he or she
should drop me a requesting note (Mail
Stop: Lab I); I'll be glad to send one out
3. Thanks to all the people who
troubled to drop me notes in response to
what I wrote, to cal l me up about it, to
stop to talk about in the halls, etc. I

continued from page 3

wrote the paper in the belief that a maximum of about five people might actually
read it I wrote it as a Quixotic gesture. I
have been astonished by the number of
readers it has found, and by the amount
of discussion it has apparently prompted,
as I have ever been by anything in this
surprising place.
Sincerely, Leo Daugherty

Evaluations

=Pass/Fail

Editor :
I am writing on behalf of the countless
hundreds of new TESC freshmen that will
arFive over the rest of Evergreen's lifespan
as an "accredited college. " I, a former
student, am having a terrible time getting
any credit due for the high acclaimed
"evaluations" (instead of grades). The
University of Oregon has given me either
pass or fail credit on these evaluations,
which was not the purpose I was inculcated into believing. All my fine teachers'
words of praise when I did well, all this is
being ignored.
Even though I was accepted at U of 0,
the lengthy, detailed evaluations of two
years work is showing up in the transcripts
as merely passed or failed. I asked both
Evergreen and the U of 0 why I was being
cheated (most of my evaluations were
equivalent to "B") in that the " pass or
fail" won't change a grade point average
like a letter grade would. I urge you to
print this letter before more sheep are led
to slaughter.
Yours in art,
John Thors
P.S. Free people depend on a free press.

PORum
FORUM is a publi c opinion column . The
articles have been submitted by or
soli cited from our readers . If you have an
issue you would like to discuss, subm it
your article to FORUM c/ o The Editor.
CPl . WE' reserve the right to ed it.

by Mary Shutak
The long arduou s struggle of the abol itionists and women should be looked
upon as an example of perseverance.
Although it took both movements many
years to reach the political goals that they
photo by Karen Hancock
Eu ropeans show concern for armaments in their backyard
strived for, they always kept their specific
goals in focus and did achieve these goals.
Slaves were freed and enfranchised and
The other day I finally took down my
my hand a friend came in with the mail.
women
obtained the right to vote. Re1982 Calendar end replaced it with my
One piece was very discouraging to me
member,
these were the specific goals
1983 Sierra Club Trail Calendar. The act of after all my reflections that I'd just made
that
these
movements sought to reach .
changi ng the ca lendar is not really that
on the past year. It was a memo from
No
matter
how minimal these results may
big of a deal to me, but sti ll I stood there
Armistice (a Nuclear Freeze Group) that.
seem
today,
blacks and women did overand reflected back on the year and what I
groundlaunched Cruise Missiles destined
come
a
facet
of their oppression.
thought was the event or issue that made
for deployment in Western Europe had
Yet,
there
is
something much more
1982 different from other years.
been secretly shipped to and are right
important
to
be
learned from these
It didn't take me long to realize that
now being tested at McChord Air Force
struggles,
and
it
is quite distinct from the
1982 saw the emergence of world-wide
Base and Fort Lewis. Wow, I thought,
merits
of
perseverance.
It concerns the
concern for the escalation of the arms
that's right here in our own backyard. The
nature
of
oppression,
and
is applicable to
race between the superpowers In Europe,
memo had news clippings from the Seattle '
all
social
movements.
(where limited nuclear war is a possibility)
P./., that explained that our area had been
It took the womens movement 72 years
protest marches, sit-ins and attempted
chosen for testing because our "just plain
to
receive the right to vote, and today, 63
occupations of military installations
miserable conditions:inciuding "snow,
years
later, women still strive for equality.
grabbed headlines and made nightly news
mud, rain, and fog" resembled conditions
Abolitionists
fought for years to free the
on the TV. Here in the United States,
in Western Europe.
negroes,
and
today, over one hundred
rallies and demonstrations took place in
My first thoughts were why don't they
years
later,
bl
acks are still oppressed.
almost every large city. These demonstratest these damn things in Washington,
ObViously,
these
political rights that were
tions were different from the anti-war
D .C. , they must have gotten their orders
gained
did
not
bring
about any significant
demonstrations of the 1960's because it
MXed up. For truly the "miserable condichanges
in
society.
Blacks
were given
was no longer just "kids" out there on the
tions" exist there more than they do here.
rights
as
citizens
on
paper,
yet in daily
streets, but people from all walks of life.
When the American people last year
life
were
ridiculed,
lynched
and suffered
Last June 800,000 of these "dupes to
showed such concern about the arms
brutalities
equal
to
or
worse
than those
communism" (as President Reagan called
buildup and then th~ military keeps on
suffered
while
in
bondage.
Equal
citizens?
them) gathered in New York tity to show
going in the direction of world annihila",Not
quite.
Womel'l
faced
the
same
probsupport for the United Nations Special
tion, then "miserable conditions" truly
lem.
They
were
granted
the
political
voice
Session on Disarmament
exist in the halls of our nation's capital.
they
demanded,
yet
discrimination
conCloser to home, many state and local
For many of us it would be too expentinued in education, in the workplace and
groups gained momentum in their efforts
sive to go to Washington, D.C., to protest
at
home. The place of women and blacks
to educate people on the evils of nuclear
this latest development, but I think we
SOCiety had been in no way altered. In
in
weapons in particular and the arms race
owe it to ourselves to join the Armistice
many
respects, the discrimination and
in general. It was encouraging to me to
group when they hold a nonviolent
was amplified once women
oppression
see the Arms Freeze petition included on
presence at the main gate of McChord Air
and
blacks
were allowed to participate in
our ballot here in Thurston County, and
Force' Base on Sunday, January 16. You
society
as
"equals."
Working and living
it felt good knowing that I was not alone
can call them at 324-1489 (Seattle) for
alongside
the
"white
men" only showed
in my fears for the planet.
more information. For lasting results, we
discrimination
in
its
true
colors.
As I was holding the 1982 calendar in
must keep this movement alive.

br Nielsen

page 4 The Cooper Point Journal Jan. 13. 1963

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The. conference will condude with a
AGENDA
series of afternoon workshops devoted to- -: ;
" the ways and means of economic
Thursday lanyary 1310:30development."
.
8:00 p.m. Lecture Hall 3-"Citizens' Rights 12:00 p.m. The State Economy
Washington leaders will join local
to Jobs and Income in the
Dr. Russell Lidman, Evergreen
Citizens, students and other conference
Future U.S. Economy," Dr.
Economist and Director of its
participants to examine possible develol>'
Bertram Gross, Distinguished
MPA Program; David Weig,
ment tools such as economic develol>'
Professor of Public Policy, City
State Economist with the Office
ment districts, cooperatives and comUniversity of New York. Dr.
of Financial Management; and
munity development corporations. Discus-: :
Gross drafted the Employment
Lynn Michaelis, Chief Economist
•.
sion will also focus on ways to finance
Act of 1946 and served as Exec·
of Weyerhaeuser Company, will
economic growth, including creation of a : :
utive Secretary of the President's
analyze condit ions and trends
state bank, attraction of venture capital, "
Council of Economic Advisers;
in the Washington state
and proposed uses of public employees
he helped to draft the Humphreyeconomy.
pension funds. State and local planning
Hawkins Act of 1978 and is
and coordination needs will also be
currently worki ng on Reprediscussed, along with identification of
sentative John Conyers " Rights,
130educational and training requirements for: :
Jobs, and Growth" bill.
3:00 p.m. Development Innovations in
a revitalized state economy.
Other States
The session wi II close with an examina- : : Friday lanuary 14
Dr. Michael Kieschnick. Director
tion of "agendas for future discussions
Communications Building, Recital Hall
of the California Office of Econand actions," which Dr. Dolbeare predicts: : 9:00 a.m. Welcome and Introduction to
omic Development, and Nathan
will be considered at a number of other
the Conference: President
Gardels, Director of California
conferences on state economic revitaliza- : :
Daniel J. Evans, The Evergreen
Division of Pension Investment,
tion scheduled within the next few
State College
and others experi enced instate
months.
innovations elsewhere, will disAdmission to the conference is free to
C'uss finan cing in struments and
students, $10 to others. All participants
other developmental innovawill receive background papers prepared
tions and respond to questions
9:15by Evergreen's M.PA students and
from a panel of Washington
1015 a.m . Key Sectors of the Washington
faculty, including a monograph Dr.
experts.
State Economy
Dolbeare has just completed which
Professor Kai Lee of the Un ianalyzes past, present and possible future: :
3:15versity of Washington and two
state roles in economic development. His: :
5:00 p.m. Proposed Alternatives in
other state experts will discuss
paper and the conference are supported
Washington State
problems and prospects in the
in part by a grant from the Kettering
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programs, rural and agricultural
assistance, and plant closing
legislation will be reviewed by a
panel of experts including economists L. Charles Miller of
Seattle, Malcolm McPhee of
Olympia, William Lotto of the
Thurston County Economic
Development Council, and reI>'
resentatives of busi ness, government, and labor.
7:3010:00 p .m. Informal coffee and conversation , 4th floor , Evans Library
Saturday lanuary 15
Communications Building, Recital Hal l
9:3010:45 a. lll . Washingto'n in Hard Times
Histori cal perspective on the
Depression of the 1930s and its
co ntrasts and sim ilarities with
present problems a panel of
hi storians and journal ist s chdi red
by Shelby Scates, Seat tl e PostIntE'lligencpr ('olumni s!.
11(K}n(x') a.m " The Political Imperat ives of

Ecollom i(' Democra('y." OE'rek
Shpiu er. economist. author. and
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author of E('onOIllIC' D"I1):)< rdcy .
The C h ,~ II E' n ge of the 1'1il(h
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! . 1(1 p .m . Workshops on Ways and Means
of Economic Development
Wa<;hlngton eX[1Prt s and aC't lvlsts
wi ll jOin with studpnh. the
gpnera l public , ,lnel ot hpr ( on·
feren ce parti Cipant<; in di scus·
<;tOil' 01 what to do and how to
do it. fp( 1I<;C'd 011 ,lIch ilrE'a S a,
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Latin American Art At lESe
So why didn't these movement's politi ca l gains bring about significant changes
in society? I do not think it was due to
the means that they used . Women and
abolitionists took the acceptable action of
the time . A resort to vio lence or radical
action would have on Iy al ienated the
members of the movement from those in
power. Radicalism was not responded to
kindly in the late 19th century.
The problem was that the abolitionists
and suffragettes concentrated on the
results of oppression, not the cause of
oppression. What is the cause of oppression? Simply, it is attitudes. People do not
oppress other people, but the attitudes of
society oppress people. Men do not
oppress women simply because they are
men, but the attitude of male superiority
within society cause women to be 01>'
pressed. The same is true in regard to
racism. Whites do not oppress blacks
simply because they are white, but the
ethnocentric attitudes of anglo-saxon culture ca use blacks to be oppressed.
The point that I'm trying to make is
that before any system can be altered,
and retain significant results, the attitudes
that perpetuate the system must be
changed. In our society, we, the people
hold the attitudes that perpetuate the
system. Our attitudes as masses keep the
system as it is . Reform activists shout:
"tear down the,system, screw the system!," yet, this seems to be bypassing the
real problem Without dealing with it. In
tearing down the system, we would be
curing the symptoms, not the illness:
Instead we must look to the roots of
oppression which are attitudes, and focus
on bringing about changes there. The
women's movement and the abolitionist's
was the first step towards a new attitude
of equality. But, until we can break down
completely the attitudes that perpetuate
oppression in society, we will do nothing
but change the structure of the system,
not the rotten elements within . The rules
of the game will be changed, yet the
player's strategy will be the same. Social
movements must focus on changing attitudes, not changing laws. This is the most
import<lnt lesson to be learned from our
past. I hope that we can apply it to our
future.

by Arthur West
All too often, modern art is devoid of
meaning. Technique and ability, while
often present, fai I to compensate for a
death of meaning. It is thus refreshing to
see an exhibit of contemporary artwork,
wherei n the human condition is graphical ly and unequivocably portrayed.
Just such an exhibit is "Latin America :
Women as Artists and Artisans," opening
this Saturday, Jan. 15, in the fourth floor
gallery of the Dan Evans library.
" This is a very exciting and significant
exhibit," comments Gallery director Sid
White. " It is an unusual opportunity to
experience the art and culture of a number of South American countries. Springing from a broad range of experience, the
exhibit presents a sense of the variety of
life situations in Latin America, from
Indian and folk culture to more modern
cosmopolitan impressions."
Featured in the exhibit will be a Brazilian Evergreen alumni, Lalada Silva
Dalglish. Her work, she says, reflects her
roots in her culture. She has tried to use
primitive forms and techniques in an
effort to convey as authentically as
possible traditional Brazilian motifs. Her
work is mostly done using primitive techniques of construction and it is fired on a
low fire technique using basically salt and
seaweed for coloration.
Her vases, she says, are not meant to
be utilitarian . Rather they are conceived
of as pieces intended to be used in
ritualistic ways -as ceremonial vessels,
for example, for candles or incense, or for
carrying rose petals in a religious
procession.
Her shrines are evocative of shrines
found in Brazilian churches or of
macumba shrines found in people's homes
or under trees in fields or near pathways
where people walk.
In order to integrate the medium to
the meaning, the gallery opening will be
preceded by a free public lecture in the
Ccmmunication Building Recital Hall at
3 p.m. Jan. 15. The lecture, "Lati n America: Women, Art and Social Change," will
be presented by artist and art historian
from Southern Oregon State College,
Betty La Duke. No stranger to the politics

of art, Ms. La Duke herself played a hand
in smuggling three politically sensiti ve
folk embroideries out of Chi le.
The lecture offers a rare opportunity to
examine women arti sts of South Ameri ca
for, in addition to selections of their work ,
Ms. La Duke has prepared photographs
and backgrounds of the artists themselves.
Following, the exhibit officially opens
with a reception in the gallery on the
fourth floor of the library building at The
Evergreen State College.

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Geoducks Hope To

Sail To Ma i Gras

by Carney Combs
The TESC sailing team is starting out
the new year right by hosting the Windjammers Elimination Regatta.
The Windjammers Regatta is held at
Tulane University in New Orleans,
Louisiana. To qualify for this competition
a team must win the Windjammers Elimination in their district as well as having
participated in two other invitational
regattas. The regatta in New Orleans will
be held in February at the same time as
the Mardi Gras, which adds special
inCentive to the competing teams.
TESC Coach Lou Powers feels his team
has a good chance of qualifying. "We're
going out to win this (the elimination)
regatta. We're sailing our own boats on
our own pond. I believe we're in the top
half of the district."
They will be racing against some very
good teams. The University of Washington, University of British Columbia and

the University of Oregon are the three
best teams in the district.
\'Those teams have more experience than
we do, their programs have been around
longer and they have larger student bodies
to draw from, " Powers acknowledges, "but
the team that wins will be the team that
reacts well to the conditions of the day."
For those who would like to watch part
or all of the regatta, it will be held on
January 15 and 16. The best places for
viewing are around the port area of
Olympia, especially at Fiddlehead marina. :
Also for sailing enthusiasts, the sailing
team will present " The Outer Reaches of
Sailing" by Warren Miller. This will be
shown along with slides and video tapes
of the Evergreen Sailing team. The program costs $3 per person. Along with the
show, food and nautical refreshments will
be served. It starts at 7 p.m. Saturday,
January 15, at the Organic Farmhouse.

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Jan . 13. 1963 The Cooper Point Journal page 5

Huntsberger Reviews Ten Years of KAOS

Arts & Events==:

Or Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Bulgarian Yak Music
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by Eric Brinker
Thi s month marks the 10th anniversary
of KAOS . The on-campus community
radio stat ion is only two years younger
tha n t he sc hool itself. KAOS started as a
10-wa l t stat ion with 10 volunteers and has
now grown to a 1500 watt station with
15U volunteers . Though 10 years is a
relat ive ly short time in the li fe of a radi o
-; Iat ion, General Manager Michael Hun tsberger says the station has come " very far ,
ve ry fast. " If you've bee n around the
station at all this past week you probably
found that the station li ves up to the
name the call letters have bestowed upon
It. I was finally able to catc h up with
Huntsberger on Fr iday even ing. This interview was done over a pitcher of beer at
the Rainbow Restaurant.

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ings, they keep the' books straight. KAOS
involves much more active management
than that, because I'm also part programmer, part production manager, part adsalesman and graphi c artist and all that
stuff . So I think it's a little crazier at
KAOS. The trade-off though is, because
it's non -commercial, it's a lot less intense.
I don't feel that my butts totally on the
line all the time . There's a little more freedom, and the other thing is that because I
c,l n get sucked into anyone of those
IJr0We ts, I don 't have to have this totally
businf";s focus . That's nice, because really
what I am is a producer-engineer-musician,
I'm nut rE'ally a manager. At least I don't
think of myself as one. I think if I was
totally focused in thai direction I'd get
very depressed very fast. But yeah, you do
have 10 be partially nuts, or at least like
to be arou nd nuts.
CPl. So you feel the non-commercial
status gives the station a lot more
freedom l
Hunt sberger : Oh definitely. Definitely.
I u Illy know ledge we're the only people
in Ilw Northwest letting Vietnamese
p<-'opl,· do their own programming. In an
area of th ... country where there are a lot

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(P/: I've seen you running around all
week trying to get things squared away
for this quart er and I have to ask you this
Do you have to be crazy to man age the
radio stat ion I
Huntsherger. Borderline, very borderlin e. It 'll drive you crazy rea l fast if you're
not ca reful. I t's a job that's I ike a continuIIlg vo rtex and you have to continually
force yourse lf out of the vortex beca use
you're always o n Ihe edge of getting
su cked in .
CP/' Kind of like leading a double life l
Huntsberger : Yeah. I think KAOS is
more that wa y from a management standPOIilt. You have this constant turnover in
the emp loyees, because the employees
are mostly students. The longest you' re
going to have anybody, if you 're lucky, is
about three years. Usually it's like two
years you' ll have somebody around. That
puts a lot more pressure on me because
that mea ns I have to be the well of information th at knows how all the jobs gets
done . In a professiona l broadcast organ i zation. mostly what the managers do is they
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of Vietnamese people, that's shocking. It's
shocking they're not getting any broadcast
service except from us. If we were supported by advertising, the Vietnamese
program, if not being completely wiped
off the board, would be a charity case.
The Spanish program probably would be
too . I n a commercia l context you have to
get the advertising to pay for the show.
Adverti sers get to specify when they want
their ads to run because they know there
are radio personalities with a great deal of
pull. You have to give the advertiser the
freedom to support whatever it is he
wants to support . That's the downfall of
commercia l radio. If you want to do anything really adventurous, you probably
can't sell the ad time to put the show on
the air. What you end up doing is making
a charity case out of some of your shows,
or selling your ads real cheap in that slot
and bringing your budget down . There are
other kinds of freedom too, we could
never maintain an independent music
policy as a commercial station. We would
get continual pressure from the major
record label s to work in consort with
them because the recording industry and
the record industry and the broadcast
industry are all part of the same trip. If it
wasn't for the fact that we just took a
stand and said "we're going to play independent records" and been in a situation
where we could work that way for years
at a time, so we built that reputation up
that says "we're going to play independent
music," we wouldn't have gotten any
records . That's all there is to it.

(P/ : What about the well-worn criticism
that charges the station with proliferating
"Bu lgarian Yak MusiC? How do you feel
about that on both a professional and
personal level?
Huntsberger: Bulgarian yak music
exists; somebody had the guts to make it
and somebody should have the guts to
play it I think that's my initial reaction to
that type of criticism, havi ng been a composer and worked with a lot of 20th
century musicians. The seriou s composer
has li ved in a cloister since the 11th
century, it's just that the cloister isn't a
church anymore, it's a coll ege music department. That's part of what makes
modern music so inaccessible, the fact

Friday Night Films presents "Lord Love a Duck"
(1966 109 min. color), directed by George Axelrod
at'7 p.m. and 9 p.m. in Lecture Hall One. Roddy
McDowall, Tuesday Weld , and Ruth Gordon star.
The price is still $1.50. No 3 p.m. show is
scheduled .
Evergreen's masters degree program in publi c
administration will host a two-day conference,
January 14-15. The topiC is on "Economfc Development: Hard Questfons About Ends and Means."
Registration is free to sludenls, $10 to other, and
includes access to background papers on economic revitalization in Washington state prepared
by MPA students and faculty. On Friday, Ihe conference will begin in the Recital Hall at 9 a.m.
Saturday, the conference will also begin in the
Recital Hall, but at 9:30 a.m.

Sunday
Evergreen is hosting a "Tribute to Japan" which
is cosponsored by Ihe Consulate General of
Japan in Seattle. The tribute will take place from
1-5 p.m. on Sunday, January 16, in the Evans

Library. Six-Japanese films, slide talks by members of the Olympia Sister City Committee, panel
discussions, demonstrations of origami, flower
arranging and calligraphy are planned. Also
scheduled are the presentation of three traditional
tea ceremonies. Two exhibits will be open for
viewing. Tacoma artist, Michl Osaka, will have an
art exhibit of Sum I prints In Gallery Two, and a
display.of Japanese artifacls will be 'presented on
the second floor of the library by members of the
Olympia Sister City Committee. Admission is free.

EPIC presents a film, "From Hitler to M-X" on
January 17 and 18. This 9O-mlnute film directed
by Joan Harvey is a new anti-war feature documentary. The fi lm deals with corporations who
profit by the escalation in. lhe nuclear arms race.
This film can be seen on the t 7th in Lecture Hall
One at 7:30 p.m . and in CAB 110 al12 p.m. on
Ihe 18th. Admission is free .

The Artists Co-Op Gallery, at 524 South Washington in downtown Olympia, will be featuring as
their artist of the week, January 8-15, oi l painters,
Geri Stelljes and Marj Munzinger. The gallery
hours are from 10-5 Monday through Saturday.

"B rother Sun, Sisler Moon" (1973 120 min .
color) , directed by Franco Zellirelli can be seen in
Lecture Hall One at 4, 7 and 9:30. "Brother Sun,
Sister Moon" stars Graham Fau lkner. Judi Bowker
and Alec Guiness in a slory about Ihe early years
of Francis of Assissi . Ihe founder 01 the Roman
Catholic order 01 Franciscans. Donovan contributes the music to the film . Admission is $1 .50.

John Atkins , jazz pianist, will perform Solo
piano composilions January 13-15, from 9 p.m. to
1 a.m. at Carnegies, located downtown. at 7th

KAOS , in celebration of ils 10th Anniversary, is
reintroducing their "Alive In Olympia" program .
The first show was Sunday January 9. "Alive in
Olympia" can be. heard each Sunday al 7 p.m. on
89.3~ .
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Bert Wilson and Be-Bop Revisited can be heard
this &mday, January 16. Berl Wilson is perhaps
Olympia's premier iazzman, hi s saxophone has
been put to use by such diverse talenls as John
Coltrane and Tower of Power. Wilson's new album

Kaleidoscopic Visions . on Ihe AuRoa' label . is
described in a recenl issue of The Rocket as
"techn ique in search of raw ecstasy ," Wilson 's

back-up band for Ihis show is Be-Bop Revisiled .
a band that plays living jazz in Ihe Be-Bop
tradi ti on.

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Olympia's music scene is like power in
search of an out lE't There are many
talented bands and performers, yet there
is no particular venue to showcase these
talents . It is a potent entertainment
resource that remains largely ignored, and
untapped. Because of this, many bands
are driven by economic necessity to either
break up, leave the area, or get by playing
the occasional gig at Evergreen and a few
of the local bars. There isn't a place in
Olympia where you can go to hear strictly

loca l talent on a weekly basis Thi s is one
of the reason s producers Bill Eiseman and
John Bacciagallupi deve loped thei r KAOS
radio sE'ries of ten li ve, week ly broadcasts
from the recording studiOS here at Evergreen, that will feature only local talent
Doing the broadcas ts from the recording
studios will ensure the finest possible
sound with minimal distortion. " Alive in
O lympi a" airs every Sunday at 7 p.m . on
Alive in Olympia producers and crew
KAOS 89.3 FM, offeri ng an opportunity
for you to hear what's happening on th£'
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06Ei~ Olympia music scene without even leavHuntsberger continued from page 6
Thurston cou nty. I just don't think they
ing your home. The senes, whi ch kicked
months and all of a sudden be a fry cook,
know we're there. I think there's no quesoff last Sunday with a concert by Heliowhich was a skill I learned when I was
tion our jazz programming is excellent,
I!l troupe, has a keen emphasis on diversity ;
about nine years old, and being an audio
our rock programming is exce llent, our
there shou ld be someth ing for everybody
engineer on the side. Living in a recording
bluegrass programming is excell ent. It's
WWhere in Olympia cou ld you hear jaZl
studio because I cou ldn't work in one.
ju st finding those listeners and saying,
one week, classical the following week
That was real hard and it's really nice to
"Well, here's a stat ion that you can' t
and rock the next, al l done by local
be able to apply all this stuff that I've
listen to all the time, but for two hours
musicians l "Alive in Olympia" not only
learned. KAOS has done for me what I
you'll love it and if you listen to it some
offers a chance for you to hear local
hope it will do for all the students, which
more you might really like the other stuff." talents, but also to hear what the
is give them a context to apply their aca(PI: Is there anytliing you'd like to say
musicians themselves have to say about
demic learning so they don't come out
to all the subscribers?
their music.
Huntsberger: Thank you! We've had as
with a jaded idea from their educational
many subscribers as we've had programbackground. I think a lot of people have
mers, matter of fact, now we have 300
to basically disregard their education
Eiseman and BacciagaJlupi conceived
subscribers . Most of them don't continue
when they go out into a work situation, to
the idea of "Alive in Olympia" l ast sumtheir subscriptions right away, they slack
to one degree or another. I haven't had to
mer and spent 20 hours a week last quarter
do that.
off and then we do another marathon and
working out the technical details and
logistics of this immense project. They felt
they pick it up six months later. I underCP/: What kind of changes have you
stand, I do that too. Radio is not like a
seen during your years at KAOS and what
ready to tackle the project, and why not l
magazine, when you stop subscribing it
do you think about those changes?
Both of them were slated to produce this
doesn't stop coming. It's really gratifying,
Huntsberger: I can't think of any that
year's ill-fated album project. They say
especially after the last marathon, where
have been negative . .. actually that's not
"Alive in Olympia" is an alternative to
we were pledged $2300 bucks and we've
true. There is a certa in anarchy at KAOS
doing the album project and that it has
collected $1900 in two months, which is
which has been stepped on, that is a real
worked out better because they can use
an unheard of rate of return . Very little of
important part of community radio. ComOlympia musicians in addition to the
it Came in full subscriptions, most of it
munity radio will forever be the orphan
talents here at Evergreen. A shorter version
was five, ten, fifteen dollar donations.
chi ld of broadcasting and because of the
of the series was produced last quarter,
Thank you for listening l
which both Eiseman and Bacciagallup say
size of the radio station and its place in
(PI: Anything you'd like to say to
was a valuable experience that will aid
t he institution, we can't live up to the role
people ~hat aren't subscrib ing l
them in doing the broadcasts this quarter.
of the orphan chi ld as much as we used
Huntsberger: They need to get a
If the program is successful, there is a
to. It's real hard when somebody walks in,
progr,am guide and listen . If you don't like
possibility of syndication through the
they' re in a band and they want to put
it, it's because you're listening at the
National Federation of Community
the band on the air in two hours, to tell
wrong
time.
I
know
we're
the
only
radio
Broadcasters.
them: " I can't do it, your planning isn't
station
in
the
area
that
will
offer
African
altogether, your paperwork isn't together
folk music, bluegrass and Tommy Dorsey
That's part of what community radio is,
and
Frank Sinatra in the same day. Now
allowing Joe-X to walk in off the street
somewhere
in there we've got to hit ya l
and two hours later putting him on the
(laughs)
and
the Dead Kennedys too you
air. Unfortunately it doesn't make for
know.
It's
kinda
like what I said at the
good radio, most of the time. We've really
beginning,
you've
got to break down the
had to walk on that and it's been real
barriers, you've got to be adventurous.
hard for me.
You'll never find out if the eclair's any
I think the quality of KAOS programdon't take the
ming has improved immensely in two
years, mostly as a result of training. The
people are being trained consistently, on
a training system that was designed three
. years ago, but was never implemented.
The biggest thing we need to work on
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(P/: What's the most important thing
you've gained l

Bill ~. I se m a n and Juhn Ril lc iaga iluppi
have 1" 1 used in o n " udio engineeri ng and
product ion th eir last two yea" at rver gret'n ilnd hoth haW' work£'d on m,m \!
varil'd rrodu r tion s during th ,1I tinl(' rhE'\
say they 'rp prod uc ing "Al iw In OI"yIllPld "
to h,'lp giv1' pxposure to up dnei lom ln g
yuung bd nd, 111<It would probdbil' gl ' un notin'Cl , a, well as a chan ( ,. lor 50(1)(' ot
ihe beltt'r-known bands 10 gai n ll10r p th an
tht> limit ed ex posure they"V(' hE'E'n gPltin~.
,md also "hecilusf' it's fun ."

" Ali VE' in O lymp ia " i, being produ ced III
(Onlunction With the KAOS 10th Ann iver'.lry (H£'y, 10 y£'ars, 10 show,) and both
producers hope the seri es will be a shot in
Ihe arm for the rad io stat ion . They say
Ihat KAOS Cenera l Man ager Michael
Hunt sberger, audio faculty Ken Wilhelm
and Communications Building Manager
DE'e Van Brundt have been in strumental
in getting the series off the ground
Huntsberger and KAOS dis c jockey
Oscar Spidahl will be your hosts for the
"Alive in Olympia" series which .began on
March 13. The series will feature Neobop,
Bert Wilson, B.C. Shelby, Angry Young
Poets and many more . Consult the Arts &
Events calendar in the (ooper Point
/ournal for a schedu le of the seri es. Some
of the highlights of the production will be
the "Acoustic Forum" (Feb. 13), a li ve
concert in the Recital Hall of the Communications Building which the publi c is
invited to attend . The Forum will feature
the acoustica l talents of six local performers . The final program (March 13 ) wi ll
be a live concert by the rock band Factory
Girls that wil l be simulcast on closed circuit TV to the dorms . This show will be
the largest multi -media event Evergreen
has seen in years. So on these soggy Sunday nights tune in to 89.3 FM at 7 and
hear what's happening in O lympia for a
change.

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Huntsberger: $900 a month! (laughter)
... I n a real sense, right now my role at
KAOS is I am the glue. I'm the person
that knows where everything is and how
it's supposed to go and I'm also the
mechanism that allows students to be
students at Evergreen, easily. With no professional staff in there it was real hard for
KAOS to get its business done inside the
college, because you constantly had a
situation of students trying to work with
staff members. The staff members aren't
necessarily there to work with the students, they are there to service them, but
they're the operating staff of the college.
It's not like the faculty relationship and
that can make it really hard when you
want to do a purchase order, or you need
to get a piece of equipment repaired, or
someth ing like that, because that never
comes through student channels. It always
comes through faculty or staff channels.
So I've smoothed out a lot of those
bumps, because I'm that li aison. Inside
the station I'm there to make sure everything runs and to see to it that we have a
good iopa what needs to be done and
how students can address their needs in
terms of an academic program.

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Seattle on January 21 for only one show . Grisman
is accompanied by his Q.uartet for the one show
at Meany Hall al the University of Washington,
Friday, January 21, at 8 p.m. Opening for David
Grisman will be sofa guilarisl , Eric Tingslad .
Admission is $5.50 lor UW sludenls, $8 general

Two Guys Who Are Producers: Live In Oly

Hunlsberger : From my experience at
KAOSI
(PI: Yes.

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The YWCA Apple/am has the following acts
scheduled for January:
January 15th- Backgrasswards-$2iO
January 22-Steve and Maureen-$2.5O
January 29- Tall Timber-$3.5O

and Franklin.

Huntsberger: Direction, probably. It was
real hard to walk out of college with a
degree in music and audio and know that
the only job out there is one I could
make. It was a really good feeling to
make one. I mean I've made a lot of
friends, that too! It was real weird to walk
out of college, sell stereos for three
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that it's produced in an inaccessible
place, and the only people who have a
gut level understanding of it are people
who have done it and have studied it.
KAOS is at least making it avai lable to
the rest of the world if they want to take
an interest in it. Which I think they
should, because it's important. There are
a lot of things happening in modern music
wh ich are really signifi cant, a lot of breaking down of barriers as to what music is
and should be, but it's not getting any
exposure. People should at least support
the concept. It's like if I live in a neighborhood and everybody has a white picket
fence. All I want to do is build a brown
picket fence really. Don't hate me because I built a brown picket fence, give
me the freedom to build it and maybe
you'll like it and want one too. It's that
kind of situation, from a professional level.
There is no music that does not take
getting used to. People are not born with
an ear that says, " I know what I like when
I hear it," they learn that attribute. If you
can learn it for big band jazz, or for rock
and roll, or can learn it for bluegrass, then
you can learn it for anything. All you
have to do is break down a bunch of
barriers that you've built up, that have
forged you into the person you are and
then you can appreciate anything. That's
a personal reaction I
(PI: How do you view your role at
KAOS and what do you feel is the most
important thing you 've gained from the
experience l

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